Ahh soylent green Mr Heston with Edward G Robinson tis a classic but not as good as “The Omega Man” watching that as a youngster i nearly filled me pants with shepherds pie :o
Brigs are you sure those piccies are not taken at a Brighton car rally !!! Looks like a Ford Cortina all spruced up 
(don’t hit me !)
willy waving :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Techy
/looks at goosed graphics card 
/looks at Brigstocks willy :roflmao:
/looks at VISA card :rolleyes:
/looks at wife…oops forgot, already divorced…I’m off to the PC stores tomorrow…
I’m thinking:
CPU INTEL RETAIL CORE2DUO E6400 2.133GHZ 2MB L2 CACHE 775 £153.00
HEATSINK THERMATAKE TT-TR2-M13 SE SKT 775 £12.00
MOBO ASROCK CONROE 945G-DVI SKT 775 £52.00
MEMORY 512MB PQI DDR2 667Mhz £24.95 (x2)
GFX 256MB SAPPHIRE X1950XT PCIE VIVO £170.00
HARDDRIVE 160GB SATA 2 WESTERN DIGITAL 7200RPM 1600JS £39.95
CASE E-CUTE BK 550W PSU 12CM AUD 1394 + TEMP £52.00
From http://www.e-woc.co.uk/
Other bits I can salvage.
Any suggestions most appreciated…help?
Looks good to me
Majik runs a 256 1950 on his PC running at 1920x1200 comfortably, and thats with 4xAA aswell on perfect settings
Envious of you I am, I’d love to get hold of a conroe setup
If thats a micro pc case, then avoid 
A decent midi is best, you want to maintain good airflow and have some room.
Just guesing on the size, as you have chosen a micro atx mobo.
Speaking of which … It looksl ike you are keeping a tight reign on expenditure (only to be expected from a scotsman :roflmao: ) but IMO its worth spending a little extra to get a nice mobo, especially as the conroes are decent clockers.
Some further research may be needed as the 680i boards are very pricey, but it would appear that the 650i boards are decent, something like the “Abit Fatal1ty FP-IN9 SLi nForce 650” seems to be getting favourable user opinions, and comes in @ circa £80.
As for CPU cooling, the “Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler” sweems to be a good piece of kit for minimal cost (£16) especially if your case has an 80mm+ exhaust fan at the rear near the CPU placement, as that will take heat out of the case nicely 
that will be a much better solution than the downdraught type coolers IMO
If you want to reclaim some of the extra expenditure back, you could get an 256mb X1950Pro, its not as fast but for IL2 the difference is minimal … some newer games will start to tax it unless you keep the resolution down, or run without HDR, the XT will hold out better in that scenario.
The Pro can be had for around £111 for a Sapphire, avoid the HIS ones.
The 640mb Nvidia 8800GTS is more expensive (£250), but would be a better move if you are planning on playing newer games in 1280x1024 and upwards. Just expect to play around with drivers
Didn’t notice the case and board size.
For a board I recommend the Gigabyte DS3.
Seen good reviews for it, looks a good budget option, with plenty of O/C options.
I was hovering over the buy button on a 6600, DS3 and Geil DDR not long ago. Resisted temptation though.
How about this from OCUK
Sapphire ATI Radeon X1950 Pro 256MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail(£111.61)
Intel Core 2 DUO LGA775 E6400 2.13GHz Retail / Gigabyte 965P DS3 / 2GB Corsair XMS2-6400C5 DDR2 Dual Channel Kit - Bundle(£364.21)
Samsung SpinPoint P HD160HJ 160GB SATA-II 8MB Cache - OEM(£41.11)
Antec Sonata II Piano Black Quiet Case - 450W Smart Power PSU(£70.49)
Sub Total : £499.94
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £9.95
Vat : £89.23
Total : £599.12
I know it’s a little over your budget, but it’s all quality products. The case comes with an Antec 450w PSU which could do with a larger wattage, but will work with the above components and Antec do very good PSU’s.
Plus throw another £200 into the pot gets you a 22" WS momitor 
Brigs, Majik, great advice. I’ve been to the store, with your tips, then it all went a bit hazy!
GIGABYTE 965P-DS3, INTEL E6600 2.4GHZ, ATI X1950XT, 2xA-DATA 512MB 800MHZ, Trust 520W Pro PSU, MS-Tech case (bloody big one!).
Oh, and there was this 19" widescreen just saying ‘Buy Me Now!’ and it was only fair. It would be just rude to plug my old 17" CRT in, and besides, the kids need the old system to play runescape :o
Happy as a pig in muck (until the VISA statement comes through)…I’m going in…
LOL Joe…your man after me own heart…
That is a very nice setup you have there…
Extra jealous now
Good quality brands you have there. ADATA is good quality ram and the DS3, I’ve only read good things about that. Majik has the 6600 and has got some excellent clocking out of it.
Funny how a budget goes out of the window when you’re surrounded by hardware
I think maybe he isn’t 100% scott :roflmao:
Brigs, we are a bad influence :o
What cpu cooler did you plump for ?
The retail one will do the job @ stock reasonably, but to get your moneys worth from the cpu, either the one I mentioned above, or the one I have, will cool very nicely for that overclocking
That memory is the same speed as mine, so make sure the bios mem/cpu ratio is 1:1 and lock the PCI bus, as you can then take the system bus to 400 without having the memory out of spec, and that would give you potentially up to 3.6 ghz … depending on how lucky you got with the E6600.
With the Tuniq tower I have, fan speed at ~1800RPM, I have the E6600 @ 3.5ghz (389 bus) stock volts prime stable and trouble free, sitting idle @ 32 deg … same as system temp
Hopefully your case has a nice quiet 92-120mm side fan to draw air in and another 92-120 at the rear to take the heat out, from experience thats the best set-up for air cooling without being too noisy
A 19" W/S @ what native res ? 1680x1050 or 1440x900 ?
Either way that will be very nicely suited
Have fun with that little lot, I think you will like it
Frames: 6716 - Time: 119028ms - Avg: 56.423 - Min: 24 - Max: 129
1440x900 (native res of monitor), 4xAA, 4xAF.
Majik, i’m just using the retail cooler, the salesman actually recommended that as well. I have no plans for trying that black magic of overclocking…yet. Why should I, this kit is brilliant as it is! No fan in the side, but a large one in the front and a small one in the back. All running silently at the moment. I’ll have to check those BIOS settings too.
Now, just a few 100 more MB of updates to download. I should make it for Mon SE. Thanks again
If your not planning on O/C, the bios should be fine at defaults.
What set-up did you have before ?
I had an AMD 3GHz, Nvidia 6600GT, 1GB memory on an MSI K8M NEO V Motherboard:
I dug out this old Black Death - Avg: 34 - Min: 14 - Max: 61
And that was only at 1024x768 
at 1024x768
Avg: 34 - Min: 14 - Max: 61
…with vsync enabled possibly
Ming
I am sure this has been answered, but oh how do you manualy adjust the resolution (such as 1680x1050) and add AA’s and AF’s for Il2.
I searched all over and I couldn’t find an answer. Default max resolution is 1280x960
1680x1050, eh? stop showing off :mad:
you set it up in conf.ini. This is what I have for my 1440x900 res to match my native resolution:
[window]
width=1440
height=900
ColourBits=32
DepthBits=24
StencilBits=8
ChangeScreenRes=1
FullScreen=1
DrawIfNotFocused=0
EnableResize=0
EnableClose=1
SaveAspect=0
Use3Renders=0
Once you set that, don’t ever try to change the settings in-game as it will screw it up.
As for AA and AF, set that outside the game in your graphics settings. What are you, ATI or NVIDIA? I’m ATI, and I just use the ATI icon in the taskbar to start the Catalyst Control Settings.
Make sure you untick the ‘Appilcation Controlled’ radio button, then pick whatever level your PC can manage. I’m on 4xAA and 4xAF.
Great stuff, thanks a lot.
To bad now I got big black stripes
Is this good?
[FONT=‘Courier (W1)’]MAINBOARD ASUS P5NE-SLI N650I SLI[/FONT]
[FONT=‘Courier (W1)’]CORE DUO INTEL E6600BOXED[/FONT]
[FONT=‘Courier (W1)’]FLOPPY 3 ½ 1.44MB [/FONT]
[FONT=‘Courier (W1)’]2 x 1GB RAM 667 MHZ KINGSTON [/FONT]
[FONT=‘Courier (W1)’]HARD DISK 500GB 7200 RMZ SATA [/FONT]
[FONT=‘Courier (W1)’]MASTERIZZATORE DVD/RW SATA LG [/FONT]
[FONT=‘Courier (W1)’]ASUS EN8800GTS/HTDP/640M PCI-E[/FONT]
The black stripes could be result of the FSAA…reduce it could help in some cases.
OK, I’m on perfect all around, with more than 60 fps average in Black Death track…
…and I finally can spot those damned dots… :anpeace:
