Didnāt notice the case and board size.
For a board I recommend the Gigabyte DS3.
Seen good reviews for it, looks a good budget option, with plenty of O/C options.
I was hovering over the buy button on a 6600, DS3 and Geil DDR not long ago. Resisted temptation though.
How about this from OCUK
Sapphire ATI Radeon X1950 Pro 256MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail(Ā£111.61)
Intel Core 2 DUO LGA775 E6400 2.13GHz Retail / Gigabyte 965P DS3 / 2GB Corsair XMS2-6400C5 DDR2 Dual Channel Kit - Bundle(Ā£364.21)
Samsung SpinPoint P HD160HJ 160GB SATA-II 8MB Cache - OEM(Ā£41.11)
Antec Sonata II Piano Black Quiet Case - 450W Smart Power PSU(Ā£70.49)
Sub Total : Ā£499.94
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : Ā£9.95
Vat : Ā£89.23
Total : Ā£599.12
I know itās a little over your budget, but itās all quality products. The case comes with an Antec 450w PSU which could do with a larger wattage, but will work with the above components and Antec do very good PSUās.
Plus throw another Ā£200 into the pot gets you a 22" WS momitor
Brigs, Majik, great advice. Iāve been to the store, with your tips, then it all went a bit hazy!
GIGABYTE 965P-DS3, INTEL E6600 2.4GHZ, ATI X1950XT, 2xA-DATA 512MB 800MHZ, Trust 520W Pro PSU, MS-Tech case (bloody big one!).
Oh, and there was this 19" widescreen just saying āBuy Me Now!ā and it was only fair. It would be just rude to plug my old 17" CRT in, and besides, the kids need the old system to play runescape :o
Happy as a pig in muck (until the VISA statement comes through)ā¦Iām going inā¦
LOL Joeā¦your man after me own heartā¦
That is a very nice setup you have thereā¦
Extra jealous now
Good quality brands you have there. ADATA is good quality ram and the DS3, Iāve only read good things about that. Majik has the 6600 and has got some excellent clocking out of it.
Funny how a budget goes out of the window when youāre surrounded by hardware
I think maybe he isnāt 100% scott :roflmao:
Brigs, we are a bad influence :o
What cpu cooler did you plump for ?
The retail one will do the job @ stock reasonably, but to get your moneys worth from the cpu, either the one I mentioned above, or the one I have, will cool very nicely for that overclocking
That memory is the same speed as mine, so make sure the bios mem/cpu ratio is 1:1 and lock the PCI bus, as you can then take the system bus to 400 without having the memory out of spec, and that would give you potentially up to 3.6 ghz ā¦ depending on how lucky you got with the E6600.
With the Tuniq tower I have, fan speed at ~1800RPM, I have the E6600 @ 3.5ghz (389 bus) stock volts prime stable and trouble free, sitting idle @ 32 deg ā¦ same as system temp
Hopefully your case has a nice quiet 92-120mm side fan to draw air in and another 92-120 at the rear to take the heat out, from experience thats the best set-up for air cooling without being too noisy
A 19" W/S @ what native res ? 1680x1050 or 1440x900 ?
Either way that will be very nicely suited
Have fun with that little lot, I think you will like it
Frames: 6716 - Time: 119028ms - Avg: 56.423 - Min: 24 - Max: 129
1440x900 (native res of monitor), 4xAA, 4xAF.
Majik, iām just using the retail cooler, the salesman actually recommended that as well. I have no plans for trying that black magic of overclockingā¦yet. Why should I, this kit is brilliant as it is! No fan in the side, but a large one in the front and a small one in the back. All running silently at the moment. Iāll have to check those BIOS settings too.
Now, just a few 100 more MB of updates to download. I should make it for Mon SE. Thanks again
If your not planning on O/C, the bios should be fine at defaults.
What set-up did you have before ?
I had an AMD 3GHz, Nvidia 6600GT, 1GB memory on an MSI K8M NEO V Motherboard:
I dug out this old Black Death - Avg: 34 - Min: 14 - Max: 61
And that was only at 1024x768
at 1024x768
Avg: 34 - Min: 14 - Max: 61
ā¦with vsync enabled possibly
Ming
I am sure this has been answered, but oh how do you manualy adjust the resolution (such as 1680x1050) and add AAās and AFās for Il2.
I searched all over and I couldnāt find an answer. Default max resolution is 1280x960
1680x1050, eh? stop showing off :mad:
you set it up in conf.ini. This is what I have for my 1440x900 res to match my native resolution:
[window]
width=1440
height=900
ColourBits=32
DepthBits=24
StencilBits=8
ChangeScreenRes=1
FullScreen=1
DrawIfNotFocused=0
EnableResize=0
EnableClose=1
SaveAspect=0
Use3Renders=0
Once you set that, donāt ever try to change the settings in-game as it will screw it up.
As for AA and AF, set that outside the game in your graphics settings. What are you, ATI or NVIDIA? Iām ATI, and I just use the ATI icon in the taskbar to start the Catalyst Control Settings.
Make sure you untick the āAppilcation Controlledā radio button, then pick whatever level your PC can manage. Iām on 4xAA and 4xAF.
Great stuff, thanks a lot.
To bad now I got big black stripes
Is this good?
[FONT=āCourier (W1)ā]MAINBOARD ASUS P5NE-SLI N650I SLI[/FONT]
[FONT=āCourier (W1)ā]CORE DUO INTEL E6600BOXED[/FONT]
[FONT=āCourier (W1)ā]FLOPPY 3 Ā½ 1.44MB [/FONT]
[FONT=āCourier (W1)ā]2 x 1GB RAM 667 MHZ KINGSTON [/FONT]
[FONT=āCourier (W1)ā]HARD DISK 500GB 7200 RMZ SATA [/FONT]
[FONT=āCourier (W1)ā]MASTERIZZATORE DVD/RW SATA LG [/FONT]
[FONT=āCourier (W1)ā]ASUS EN8800GTS/HTDP/640M PCI-E[/FONT]
The black stripes could be result of the FSAAā¦reduce it could help in some cases.
OK, Iām on perfect all around, with more than 60 fps average in Black Death trackā¦
ā¦and I finally can spot those damned dotsā¦ :anpeace:
What about the sand coloured tanks on a sandy desert in a sandstorm :roflmao:
Nice one Monstter. What was your res, AA and AF and how big is your monotor? If itās an LCD, youāre running at native res, yer?
Thanks Joe!
As per my Thread in āTechnicalā, Iām running a 19" TFT at 1280x1024 native (yes, I chose a non-widescreen with a quite low msec rate)- 4 AA and 4 AF, but tried the Brigstock āAF left to applicationā tip, and itās much worse now, even after reverting to 4xā¦:eek:
I read somewhere that youāve got to set AA to trilinear in IL2, if youāve got 4x on the NVIDIA, but Iām afraid itās not trueā¦:rolleyes:
If run āper applicationā make sure youāve selected Anisotropic in IL2SETUP.
If you are using the driver to force AF, it wont really matter what you have set in IL2SETUP as the driver is overiding it. If you are using driver AF you might aswell push it as far as you can, x16 if you can handle it. Also with the NVidia cards experiment with the AA settings as well, try downloading nHancer or Rivatuner or similar and back off the LOD Bias a bit and set 8xQ (I think the xQ does better AA for the jaggies in IL2).
Disclaimer: the above NVidia settings are from the brief 2 weeks I owned a 8800GTX before I sent it back to the shop for RMA.
sorry to resurect an old thread butā¦
Frames: 8689 - Time: 120000ms - Avg: 72.408 - Min: 25 - Max: 156
Resolution 1680x1050
8xAnis 4xAA Transparency AA=Supersampling
5200 x2 @ 2.8 and a gigabyte 9800gt ( core 700, shader 1715, ram 900 ( stock for the version i have )
[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=0
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=1
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=1
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=1
HardwareShaders=1
Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3
Sky=2
Forest=2
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2
LandGeom=2
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1
VideoSetupId=17
Water=1
Effects=1
ForceShaders1x=0
PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0
Not to pee on your cornflakes, but on the same PC I had (And still have untouched Since Nov 2007, must be a record for me):
2009-06-03 22:19:53 - il2fb
Frames: 9344 - Time: 120269ms - Avg: 77.692 - Min: 28 - Max: 158
Done just now, Not sure on AA settings for that, but it was at least 4x ā¦ probably 8x min, and on an old driver revision (178.24).
thats with identical settings apart from videosetup id (obviously).
Cut n paste below:
[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=0
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=0
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=1
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=1
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=1
HardwareShaders=1
Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3
Sky=2
Forest=2
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2
LandGeom=2
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1
VideoSetupId=2
Water=4
Effects=1
ForceShaders1x=0
PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0
And the bench recorded back then :
2007-10-17 17:50:33 - il2fb
Frames: 9888 - Time: 120086ms - Avg: 82.340 - Min: 35 - Max: 123
with 16aa app af.