TeamSpeak with Windows Vista...

Flew yesterday’s SE mission in emergency from the laptop I have at home…:o

Apart of those 2 Gb of RAM, non-expandable and sucked mainly by the OS, and the crappy Graphics Card, resulting in a risible fps rate (managing to deliver my bombload has been a miracle)…:rolleyes:

…here’s a TS question:

Why the key assigned to “Microphone muting” in TS, works ONLY if the TS window is active, while it does NOT (repeat: it doesn’t) work while flying in IL-2??? :confused:

I don’t really know why, but try running TS under compability mode, I think that will cure it. IIRC the send button didn’t work for me, but running in compability mode (as XP) solved that on my laptop with Vista.

Thanks Mikke, will try again. Can a Shortcut switch an executable to run in compatibility mode? Will look for parameters. Oh no I’m starting to hope again :slight_smile:

Ming

Also ensure that TS is set to “Run as administrator” or something to that effect.

Thanks, Gents…TS, HL, and IL2 were already set to be run as Admin…I’ll try the “set XP compatibility” option, and let you know! :wink:

Logging entry reads:

Fresh install of Vista x64, but this time I know that using the mike in TS is in fact possible so concentrating on testing control/setup combinations

Anyone who purchased the controversial Creative ALchemy drivers can get a refund (you’ll have an email) and Creative say that there’s an updated Vista ALchemy driverset up for release May 19th or thereabouts for Audigy cards and the other one

Ming

I still want that Perseverance Medal :slight_smile:

Cracked it at last night’s meet and ended up in full Il-2 flying under Vista x64 same as on XP. Bring it on Oleg I’ve got enough room in there now for the Northern Hemisphere

The first mission I flew on flouncing-XP (SE, had to RTB to save the plane) I had no sound ingame and TIR refused to work, just that scary grey screen instead of tracking the dot info. Gave up in the end lurching around with the hat switch. TG4TIR amen.

Absolutely not getting cocky about it until things settle down, pray for me we’re never far from disaster. Or rats for that matter. Little ecology note there :slight_smile:

Ming

This will have to cram into a TS thread not to spam the forum but it may be important to someone trying to track down mysterious Vista problems down the line…

Vista maintains links to earlier operating systems’ applications like TS/Il-2 - everything :slight_smile:

It does this by maintaining Junction Points

This system looks to be broken by/for installer scripts and might account for unexpected behaviour after installing Vista and legacy kit starts misbehaving

I found out about this at the Creative User forums, where there is a fix.

A Junction Point is a physical location on a local hard disk that points to another location on that disk or another storage device. It is essentially a shortcut, thus the shortcut icon on Junction Point folders in Windows Vista.
For the most part, you can ignore Junction Points for everyday use of Windows Vista. The Junction Points are in Vista for backward compatibility of pre-Vista applications. Pre-Vista applications (applications written for XP and 2000) look for folders that are no longer used in Vista. Folders with the “My” prefix such as My Documents, My Pictures, and so on. There are also folders in your user profile that have been changed in Vista, and pre-Vista apps might be looking for the old folder structure during installation. If you don’t set the option to Show Hidden Files in Windows Explorer, you will rarely even see the Junction Point folders.

Slightly more technical info from Microsoft

Junction Points in Windows Vista

In Windows Vista and Longhorn Server the default location of user data has changed. An example of this change is the documents and Settings directory. It was moved from “%systemdrive%\Documents and Settings” to “%systemdrive%\Users”. To enable interoperability with legacy apps junction points are used at the deprecated locations and point to the new locations in Windows Vista. For example C:\Documents and Settings is now a junction point which points to C:\Users. Backup application in Windows Vista and Longhorn Server must be capable of restoring junction points

These junction points have file attributes of FILE_ATTRIBUTE_REPARSE_POINT & FILE_ATTRIBUTE_SYSTEM and the ACL’s are set to “Everyone Deny Read”. Applications that call out a specific path can traverse them provided they have permissions. However attempts to enumerate the contents of these junction points will result in failures. It is important that backup applications do not traverse these junction points to keep from backing up data more than once and also because these junction points could lead to cycles.

Worth checking out if you’re (or have been) experiencing problems as a new Vista user. Yes you will be :slight_smile:

Ref: http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=Vista&thread.id=31494&view=by_date_ascending&page=8

A utility to restore the junction points is there in the thread referenced

Disclaimer: only possibly-incorrect advice is this, take it or leave it and no one’s holding a gun to your head to run any utilities :slight_smile:

But as an example, I asked EA Support how to backup my electronic download and they told me to copy out the contents of a Vista folder that I don’t have…

Ming

Mikke I got Vista x64 to cooperate at last. Big drink here :slight_smile: (two meets now without problems)

Yes thanks mate, as you advised: compatibility mode for both HyperLobby and TeamSpeak. TS has also the ‘Run As Administrator’ property if that needs toggling

Audigy2 ZS now runs ok with the latest Creative drivers and the OpenAL-to-EAX wrapper drivers - those are a free download soon and Creative are repaying the 10 dollars the drivers cost originally

Still got to get the MSFF2 stick buttons going for TS Send etc, that’s the Pinnacle application that’s flaky right now. Mind of its own

It’ll all go wrong of course but that’s half the fun. Problem-solving, nothing more satisfying :slight_smile:

For general info and btw where’s that medal guvnor :slight_smile:

Ming

Good to hear Ming, Vista 64 might be my next OS, but that’s still somewhere in the future for me…

For general info:

This is the application that allows you to get the buttons working on your MSFF2 etc sticks from Vista (or XP, 98) - Vista will not run 16 bit applications so legacy stick software won’t work

Pinnacle Game Profiler

PLAY ANY COMPUTER GAME WITH YOUR FAVORITE GAMEPAD OR JOYSTICK

  • compatible with any PC Controller, Xbox 360, PlayStation, or even the Wiimote!
    EMULATE YOUR KEYBOARD AND MOUSE WITH THIS POWERFUL PROFILER SOFTWARE

  • use your game controller to do anything you can do with a keyboard and mouse!

EASY TO USE SOFTWARE WITH TONS OF POWERFUL FEATURES

  • create custom profiles in minutes, or download pre-made profiles for your games!
    Ming