Would I embarrass myself saying that the movie Shooter is very good?
Another anti American movie from the Hollywood elites, But Ming, I don’t think you knew that I wonder if the British movie making folks do as many anti Scotland Yard and MI6 movies as Hollywood does for the CIA?:rolleyes: On that note this was an exellent HBO series that was not anti American http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0488352/
Sounds like a good book, ill look out for it:)
Not anti-American mate. Evil people depicted in it happen to be American. Actors.
Evil fat rich right-wing scum in every country Osprey. They form their own meta-nation. The global wotsit
Wait a minute- I’m not sure why you might think that there’s any anti-Americanism in the movie Osprey, really mate. I found the hero and his friends the epitome of the heartland of America. The right-wing scum could be any nationality it wouldn’t make any difference to the movie’s theme of retribution. The honourable American hero is supported by his American band of brothers and they do their best to bring the evil-doers to judgement for their evil doings
Could be a remake of a Japanese movie, like Clint Eastwood did for Yojimbo. My first thought actually after it ended was that there might be an earlier Japanese movie bubbling under there. The Japanese are big on retribution (sorry mate- I mean in movies about the Samurai era, not meaning to go on about the real life 20th Century despicable horrors)
We saw a Japanese samurai movie at the weekend which was so beautiful it stayed with me for a while, then seeing Shooter I was already in the groove. The son-of-a-disgraced-guy who falls in love with the maid and who gives up his samurai class to be a farmer and to be with her. Achingly beautiful movie, subtitles. Muskets were being imported and the art of war was moving on. Something with blade in the title. Obviously
It would make a change instead of the usual bash the English fair that has come out in recent years.
“We need a baddy for this movie, lets think what nationality we can make him”
“How about English upper class? Its a tenious link but I think we can make it work. Al Capone was born in Surrey, right?”
It is a good book, if you enjoyed Black Hawk Down you’ll enjoy it.
Evil fat rich right-wing scum in every country Osprey. They form their own meta-nation. The global wotsit
Wait a minute- I’m not sure why you might think that there’s any anti-Americanism in the movie Osprey, really mate. I found the hero and his friends the epitome of the heartland of America. The right-wing scum could be any nationality it wouldn’t make any difference to the movie’s theme of retribution. The Honorable American hero is supported by his American band of brothers and they do their best to bring the evil-doers to judgment for their evil doings
It amazes me to see the influence that Hollywood has on the world and your views are exactly the way they want the world to see the majority of Americans the fact is that we are law abiding citizens who are not anti establishment.
From a shooting standpoint, well not so good, some pretty unrealistic shooting, some technical errors, etc. But still far from the worst I’ve seen. Overall it’s not so bad that it ruins the movie for me, not by a long run.
As to the book by Stephen Hunter it’s (loosely) based on, I suggest you read what John Ross have to say about him: http://www.john-ross.net/novel.php
John Ross have btw written an IMO very good book. Now there’s something for you to look into Osprey.
Thanks for the link Mikke, I think he hits it on the head when he says ." Further, his protagonist Swagger is so turned off by the killings he did in Vietnam that he buries all his guns when he gets home, and has to dig them up when trouble comes. Fact is,
Hathcock helped establish a scout and sniper school at the Marine base in Quantico, Virginia. truth helps us to see through the fog of BS;)
your views are exactly the way they want the world to see the majority of Americans
Er, ok but deduct 10 points for not being to read apparently. Or comprehend which would be a further 10 points. Your choice will you take the 10 hit or are you going for the full 20
Good Mikke, I wasn’t too far off then if you found it watchable
I did see a documentary a couple of weeks ago about the one mile sniper rifle, huge calibre almost a cannon, was quite accurate. Could have been 50cal. Shooters didn’t show all the details that need to be computed for those long shots, I would have liked a more Len Deighton type of coverage but then I’d like that sort of coverage in every movie about every bit of kit. All movies would then be five hours long. The Japanese movie I was talking about said nothing at all about the sword. In a samurai movie. That can’t be right. Had very beautiful sparks and snow though
Ok Ming,ill go for the full 20:o you will have to explain?
“We need a baddy for this movie, lets think what nationality we can make him”
“How about English upper class? Its a tenious link but I think we can make it work. Al Capone was born in Surrey, right?”
I think I see it now in Keets reply the majority is always villainised?(is that a word?)
OK is it sarcastic? Didn’t see one of these:rolleyes:
:o
I think I see it now in Keets reply the majority is always villainised?
I think stereotype would be a better description. In the last 20 years or so Hollywood has portrayed Englishmen/The English in a certain way, no matter what the film.
Its no mistake that Geroge Lucas cast English actors to play the part of The Empire in the early Star Wars films. Subliminal messaging going on there
Its no mistake that Geroge Lucas cast English actors to play the part of The Empire in the early Star Wars films. Subliminal messaging going on there
LOL, I always looked at it cast against the U.S. government, but all in what your seeing is all nation’s abandoning there sovereignty for a single leader an evil one at that, how scary is that. As Queen Amidala says as they vote the Chancellor into office of Emperor “So this is how liberty dies: With thunderous applause.”
I think he used English actors because you have the Queens English and its music to the ears:D
Yup, must have been a .50 BMG (yup, same round as used in the P-51 etc), think a canadian sniper have the record for longest kill using a Barrett .50 around a mile I think (if I wasn’t so tired I would look it up).
Len Deighton isn’t the best at describing weapons if I remember right from the books by him I have read. Neither is Tom Clancy btw, but still good books.
The longest range recorded for sniper kill is 2,430 metres (2,657 yd), accomplished by a Canadian sniper, Corporal Rob Furlong, during the invasion of Afghanistan, using a .50 caliber BMG (12.7 mm) McMillan TAC-50 bolt-action rifle. This meant that the bullet had a flight time of ≈ 4.5 seconds, and a drop of a projectile#Height_at_x of ≈ 70 meters (230 ft).
The previous record was held by US Marine sniper Carlos Hathcock, achieved during the Vietnam War, at a distance of 2,250 metres (2,461 yd).
A while back i heard of a Sniper game coming out that was so intense you had to read Kentucky windage, Angular Mil and Compensate for bullet drop. But I have not been able to locate it on the Internet, anyone know of it?