Hi all,
The Spitfire is available for pre-purchase. It doesn’t meant that you will get it now, but it shouldn’t be long and you get some money off - currently $39.99. Unfortunately, due to Brexit and the slump in the £, it costs more than it used to!
Only trouble - I wonder how competitive this will be against the FW190D and 109K we have in-game? 1942 Spit vs 1944 Dora + 1945 Kurfast? Shame ED didn’t go for the Me109G as that was the most numerous variant…
Also missions might be a bit sterile without some other 1944/45 AI aircraft to tangle with, escort etc. Reckon they will come as part of the whole campaign package?
Or will it end up being another weird DLC idea “You have stolen a Spitfire IX from Duxford on the request of the Dowager Duchess of Grand Fenwick (Located in the Caucasus). Now use it to defend her and her country against invading Ka-50s, MIG-21s and Su-27s from the Peoples Republic of Nastiness”.
Still - Superb to have THE iconic WW2 fighter in DCS!
This makes me wonder. My knowledge about the Spit is not very deep, but in the modded version of the (HSFX) IL-2 there where Spitfire Mk. IX LF’s with years up to 1944.
The IX LF both came as a IXc and IXe.
Did the IX just refer to the airframe+Merlin?
Or did Supermarine tinker with the engines from 1942 to 1945?
Spit IX was in service until the end of the war - but I think the HSFX added the 12lb boost Spitfire IXe - which was the uprated version with .50cals and the 20mm cannon and would be the most competitive to pit against the Dora and 109K.
Hope also ED sort out the piston engine fighters damage-modelling too (and frag damage from bombs) before we get over excited about WW2 campaign.
Lets try and get some perspective on this.
[ul][li]DCS is not like CLoD/BoS/IL2/CFS3/2/1 where you can pick up a bunch of aircraft and press a button and go.[/li][li]It’s more of a study sim - but unlike FSX/X-Plane it involves combat.[/li][li]The aircraft are not always meant to match up. One of the next aircraft to come out is a P-40F. It is not a (Northern) European Theatre aircraft. It will be masacred by the Fw190. The Spitfire Mk IX continued in service into the 1950’s. It was still being produced at the end of the war.[/li][li]Keep in mind that we could have F-15C’s, Mig 29’s etc on the same map.[/li][li]The challenge in DCS is to learn how to fly your aircraft to it’s potential (and survive). Flying the Huey in the 104th Server carries a high chance of death, but the challenge is to complete the mission and make it back in spite of this.[/ul][/li]Balance:
The Normandy map is coming, but we are not sure when as yet. Currently there are three WW2 aircraft, the P-51D, Fw190D-9 and the Bf109K. The 109K was from late 1944, same for the 190. The P-51D is actually Pacific spec (apparently so some different engine settings). The Spitfire will still be competitive (think how much it was flown in IL2 1946); but more importantly more aircraft are in development by third parties and Eagle Dynamics/The Fighter Collection. This includes a Spitfire Mk XIV and P-47D Thunderbolt.
Spitfire Mk IX
The IX LF both came as a IXc and IXe.
Did the IX just refer to the airframe+Merlin?
Or did Supermarine tinker with the engines from 1942 to 1945?
The Mk IX is the airframe, the C or E refer to the wing. C wing had 2 x 20mm Cannon and 4 0.303 Brownings. The E model had 2 x 20mm Cannon and 2 x 0.5in Brownings. There were different engines used in them depening on the model, LF used a different engine to the Mk IX, I believe there was an HF too. LF being optimised for low level, HF for altitude. The airframe was the final development of the Mk I, which was beefed up slightly to become the Mk V with a more powerful engine, and this in turn was pumped up to the Mk IX. The Mk VIII and anything else after the Mk IX used a different airframe to take the extra weight and power from the newer engines.
Maps:
At first, my guess is, that we’ll have to fly on the Georgia map, but if all you’re going to do is dogfight then the setting is less important - the main thing with the ground is that you don’t hit it in that scenario. I don’t know whether this model has ground attack capability, but I would imagine it does. It does come with a clipped wing variant too.
EAF:
I think if we want to get into DCS we’d do well to have a standard starting aircraft, as currently we all have a range of them. I’d imagine that the Spitfire Mk IX would be one we’d be likely to agree on as a starting point.
Without a historic environment I don’t see this sim as any kind of replacement for CLoD.
When I buy those AC it will be for personal fun. Not for EAF training nights. Flying this on the training night will dilute our strengt when it come to organising events with other sqds and fracture EAF. So there will be no EAF in this on my part. Just friends.
I buy it with the hope that it will grow into a full fledged WWII flight-sim with VR support.
Something BOS/BOM/BOK are never going to.
There is an historic environment - Normandy. It is coming. It is under development. No one has said replace CLoD. I saif if EAF wants to do something in DCS then it would make sense for us all to use a single aircraft and agree on one.
Finally! I still have one slot free from my Kickstarter, and the Spit will be it! (Nice to get it for free )
me to, its been a lonnnngggggg wait
P51 is popular now with many in here (plus the sabre/Mig), 51 are doing stuff with it now and when OD is back up and running Normandy will be out (and the B17, Mossie, soz M8 ;)) and hopefully we can jump in with some training mission again. I think with the Normandy map there will be a lot more interest as it will also come with lots of improvements.
I’ve got a new graphics card on the way to celebrate, didn’t go for the 1080 though, got a 1070 that’s overclocked. Not told Laura and I’m getting it delivered to work! Ha! :w00t: